Two (looks like?) oil on glass paintings: Samurai on horseback p
02 January 2025
Description

Thank you very much for your offer to provide an opinion of the attached. The following previous response to this inquiry may help with your review? Responses from several noted professor of Art History at major Universities 1. James, I apologize that I also am not able to decipher the characters on your painting—while they appear to be a signature, they are written in a kind of cursive style that falls out of my area of expertise in modern Japanese language and linguistics. I’m guessing that the painting it appears on dates from the Edo period (1603-1868), so I would recommend you look for someone either in history or art history that has expertise in that era to help decipher these characters. Sorry I can’t be of more help. Best, 2: The Painting seems to be from the Shōwa era However, the signature seems to be written in the Edo style, in Cursive? Photos of the painting and signature are attached. Please let me know if I can provide any information that may help to identify the artist and / or painting. Jim 3. From the photos it appears that this painting could be a Ukiyo-E Reverse Glass Painting? The signature appears to be written in a much older style from the Ukiyo E? I would have to examine the painting to add any more information. Sincerely. Again, thank you for any information that you provide regarding any of the above. And again, much appreciation for your response and interest in helping to identifying this artwork. Best Jim

Dimensions

Approximate 15 by 17. Very professionally framed. So exact measurements not available. Framed 4 inches larger width and length. Regarding "Promoting or advise on selling (below) . This all depends upon cost? NOTE only one painting shown. The other is similar theme but very different positioning of man and horse. did not want to unwrap if not necessary. Both frames are the same style and size. Both paintings are near perfect. If not perfect.

Acquired from
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For sale
Yes
Answered within 2 days
By David U.
Jan 04, 15:41 UTC
Fair Market Value
$500 - $1,200 USD
Insurance Value $0 USD
What does this mean?

Hello,

Reverse glass painting, a technique where the image is painted on the back of a piece of glass, became popular in Japan as a blend of Western influence and traditional Japanese art during the late Edo period (1603–1868) and into the Meiji period (1868–1912). Samurai imagery is a common theme in Japanese art, symbolizing honor, discipline, and cultural heritage. Such artworks often depict dynamic scenes of warriors, showcasing detailed armor and vibrant colors.

Description:
The pieces appear to be reverse glass paintings, with a central figure of a samurai on horseback rendered in vibrant colors. The intricate details of the armor and horse, coupled with the dynamic composition, suggest skilled craftsmanship. The frames are gold-toned with red inner borders, reflecting a formal and well-maintained presentation. The signature and seal visible in the photos are crucial identifiers, though additional research may be required to attribute them to a specific artist or studio.

Market Value:
Based on the description, the style, and the condition of the artwork, similar reverse glass paintings from Japan are valued between $500 and $1,200 each, depending on the rarity of the artist and historical importance. The paired theme could also increase the collective value, with an estimated range of $1,000 to $2,500 for the set if they are from the same period and artist.

James christman Jan 06, 06:54 UTC

Thank you for your estimate. Three Questions.
1
I have framed several pieces of artwork over the past few years. And some framing was quite expensive.
The frames on these two artworks look really professional and very well done. So the this begs the question.
What value does the framing add to the estimate?

2.
But I'm still curious about the signature?
In my inquiry I included to well know University responses regarding the style of the signature.
And both were inclusive but they were though to be old? Was the signature evaluated and taken into consideration in the estimate?

3.
If I were to take advantage of your offer to sell these paintings. What would be the "inclusive" cost. Your help and the sellers premium?

Thanks for any insight that you can provide on the above? And
Thanks again for your help in evaluating this artwork

Best
Jim

James christman Jan 06, 06:55 UTC

Thanks again for the quick evaluation. Emailed a couple of questions previously.
Additional (as appropriate) questions.

I can confirm paintings are on glass. But How do I "officially" accomplish this?
The following email (included in the initial inquiry) responses to inquires I made regarding the signature, point to a particular style and dates of the signature. How do I get further clarification on these three responses?

1. James, I apologize that I also am not able to decipher the characters on your painting—while they appear to be a signature, they are written in a kind of cursive style that falls out of my area of expertise in modern Japanese language and linguistics. I’m guessing that the painting it appears on dates from the Edo period (1603-1868), so I would recommend you look for someone either in history or art history that has expertise in that era to help decipher these characters. Sorry I can’t be of more help. Best,

2. 2: The Painting seems to be from the Shōwa era However, the signature seems to be written in the Edo style, in Cursive? Photos of the painting and signature are attached. Please let me know if I can provide any information that may help to identify the artist and / or painting. Jim

3. 3. From the photos it appears that this painting could be a Ukiyo-E Reverse Glass Painting? The signature appears to be written in a much older style from the Ukiyo E? I would have to examine the painting to add any more information. Sincerely. Again, thank you for any information that you provide regarding any of the above. And again, much appreciation for your response and interest in helping to identifying this artwork.


Again, thank you for any direction that you can provide. Any Educated (non-conclusive) response would be gratefully appreciated.
Jim

David u. Jan 12, 22:04 UTC

Dear Jim,

Thank you for reaching out with your questions and for confirming that the paintings are indeed on glass. I appreciate your patience while I address each of your queries in detail.
1. Official Confirmation of Medium (Paintings on Glass):
To officially confirm the medium, such as “oil on glass,” you may need to consult a professional conservator or a specialist in materials analysis. They can perform a more in-depth evaluation using techniques like microscopy or ultraviolet light analysis to verify the paint type and medium. This step would ensure that the attribution of the artwork is as accurate as possible.
2. Further Clarification on Signature and Style:
Regarding the signature, your observation that it could align with Edo-style cursive writing is very intriguing. However, based on the details provided, the style and technique appear more consistent with works from the Shōwa era (1926–1989), specifically referencing Japanese reverse glass painting traditions. These pieces often blend Edo-inspired motifs with modern artistic interpretations. If further clarification is needed, you might consider contacting a Japanese art historian or linguist familiar with historical calligraphy styles.
3. Ukiyo-e Reverse Glass Painting Attribution:
Your suggestion that this may be a Ukiyo-e reverse glass painting is plausible, given the subject matter and aesthetic. However, reverse glass painting techniques became more prominent during the Shōwa period as a decorative art form rather than in the traditional Ukiyo-e era. While Ukiyo-e themes (like samurai) were adapted into this medium, these works were often intended for export or local decorative purposes rather than as part of the formal Ukiyo-e print movement.
4. Inclusive Costs for Selling:
If you are considering taking advantage of our offer to sell the paintings, the inclusive costs will depend on the selling platform and arrangements. Typically, the seller’s premium ranges between 10% and 20% of the final sale price, and additional costs (such as listing fees or shipping) may apply. I recommend we discuss this further to provide a precise estimate tailored to your needs.

James christman Jan 14, 08:33 UTC

By the end of the week I'll email ( in a forward to this mail) photos of the "matching pair.
May be interesting?
One inquiry ask if there was a "stamping under the signiture?. I checked.

Both paintings have a goldfish color ....(faded but clearly visible) under the signiture.

This seemed to peak the interest significantly.
FYI
Thanks for your interest.
If this is a genuine follow up. Maybe we can help each other out?

But if this reply is in regards to additional investment in this effort. I'm not interested.

Either way thanks for reaching out.
OH.
Please email a seperate message that I can reply to.. This "chain" is getting a little confusing.
Best
Jim

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