Ad for Luigi Manzottis ballet "sport" published by M.Ricordi &C.
17 October 2020
Description

In 1897 Milan’s La Scala Theatre mounted a narrative ballet named Sport. It was a celebration in dance of such activities as mountain climbing, horseracing, skating, gymnastics, hunting, and cycling. The ‘gran ballo’ had 300 dancers, an orchestra of 100 augmented by a brass band of 30, mimes, and horses The ballet was inspired by the 1896 Olympics which raised Italian interest in sport as well as encouraging a strong sense of internationalism. Sport had six scenes, each taking place in a different region of the world, from Canada to Europe. Sport was an example of an ‘up-to-date’ ballet which tackled modern fads and issues; it also starred dancers who wore modern dress rather than tutus and tights. Its revolutionary plot acclaimed both feminism and women’s participation in games. The grand finale consisted of a march of hundreds of real athletes and a spectacular ‘Apotheosis of Sport.’ Cm244x107 as seen in image slight damage. A tear on the bottom right quadrant that does not pass into any of the print and a few marks on the border as well.

Provenance

Storage Auction

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For sale
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Answered within 5 days
By George
Oct 22, 12:52 UTC
Fair Market Value
$0 - $50 USD
Insurance Value $0 USD
What does this mean?

Dear Edwardo,

Thank you for contacting Mearto with your appraisal inquiry.

The presented object appears to be a lithograph in colors on paper with the measurements of 244 x 107 cm. This poster was an advertisement for an opera or ballet with the title "Sport" in the famous La Scala in Milan in 1897. This could be a modern reprint of the 20th century.
This piece is in medium condition and there is no serious damage visible in the images provided.
A fair market estimation would be between 0 to 50 USD.
This estimate is based on actual recent past recorded auction sales of comparable items. Retail "asking prices" can be higher and may vary.

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 02:09 UTC

i dont understand why it dont costs as much as other ricordis when its older then others listed in the early ,1900s

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 02:13 UTC

n the scaricity of posters from this era . werent most of them destroyed by ricordi himself leaving some times only one for his collection i have only found one of the same as mine in a museum in chicago things must be getting tough.

George Oct 23, 15:12 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

I estimated this poster as I would do it for an auction catalog. You find often high asking prices on the internet. The museal aspect of an object does not mean that it is automatically an expensive object. I am very sorry for your disappointment.

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 16:35 UTC

i feel played cause considering the rareity of the item,plus i have found no record of this poster being sold on the internet ever thou i no u may have a lot more references then i do would u mind sharing with me any records or history of this poster ever being sold any where else.it help me feel way better about about spend my money for this expert appraisal.

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 16:48 UTC

as u can clearly see the stamps mf22 made in italy is not blurred like those that are often made of counterfits my platestamp is clearly visable so again let me know where this cataloge that sells authentic ricordi poster for a couple hundred bucks as old as mine cause i know a few people who may want to buy some

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 17:03 UTC

u say compareable items do u mean this exact poster or posters in general cause u wont find this poster any where with these famos names ricodi,manzotti,and la scala theater show me the auction please or will u show me comparable items

Edwardo zavala Oct 23, 19:40 UTC

and the button that states download report does nothing

George Oct 24, 12:10 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

I am sorry that we disagree in this point. When something is rare it does not mean the same time that it is expensive. The factor I compared this print are other advertisements of this time.

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Oct 24, 15:35 UTC

i had u appraise my poster not other posters of the time how about appraise it at other ricordis at that time at least ur a scam.fuck ur bullshit appraisal.

Edwardo zavala Oct 25, 18:26 UTC

manzotti ,marenco, some of thier works are still to this day are being held in milan .edel .ricordi the best poster maker ever u have the some of the bests in what they do ever so with the rareity of the poster with some of the best ever 2-4$ and what makes something valuable if its not rareity thats one of the dumbest thing any "expert" id like ur credentials im serious cause rareity plus noteriety should equal something more then 200-400

George Oct 26, 09:27 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

I research this object a second time. Please upload focused images of the printing remarks in black which are visible on the third image.

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Oct 26, 15:49 UTC

the poster reads ballo d l manzotti-moreno.a edel ricordi&c

George Oct 28, 16:35 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

please send in an detail of the black letters left area under the word "Ballo".

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Apr 09, 09:12 UTC

What do u mean could be a reprint ? It says where n when it was printed wouldnt a reprint have to say who reprinted it since all these things are copy righted?

George Apr 10, 12:13 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

Thank you for your email. This is different regarding the different copyright laws in different countries. Also, copyright can term out. Sadly the printing technique and these printing remarks "Made in Italy" are a hint that this piece is a reprint of the second half of the 20th century. I hope this answered all your questions.

With kind regards,
Georg

Edwardo zavala Apr 19, 13:26 UTC

MAYER, District Judge.

The suit is brought under subdivision “e” of section 25 of the Copyright-Act (Act March 4, 1909, c. 320, 35 Stat. 1081 [Comp. St. § 9546]), which provides:

“■Whenever the owner of a musical copyright has used or permitted the use of the copyrighted work upon the parts of musical instruments serving to reproduce mechanically the musical work, then in case of infringement of such copyright by the unauthorized manufacture, use, or sale of interchangeable parts, such as discs, * * * for use in mechanical music-producing machines adapted to reproduce the copyrighted music, * * * in a civil action, an injunction may be granted upon such terms as the court may impose.

Edwardo zavala Apr 19, 13:28 UTC

Can u show me a poster of the same ballet printed by ricordi that was show cased in milan italys la scalla theatre so i can see what one looks like?

Edwardo zavala Apr 19, 13:33 UTC

Almost any type of creative content—whether it be photos, articles, graphics, or what have you—is someone else's copyrighted work, which means you can't reproduce or reprint it without the express permission of the owner.

Edwardo zavala Apr 19, 13:42 UTC

Almost any type of creative content—whether it be photos, articles, graphics, or what have you—is someone else's copyrighted work, which means you can't reproduce or reprint it without the express permission of the owner.

Edwardo zavala Apr 19, 13:42 UTC

A copyright is a form of protection provided by federal law to creators of “original works of authorship.” This includes both published and unpublished literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works. The author of a copyrighted work can prevent others from copying, performing, or using the work without his or her consent. A third party wishing to reprint all or any part of a copyrighted work must first obtain the permission of the copyright holder. Failure to do so could result in a lawsuit and substantial fines.
Not every third party use of copyrighted material will be considered a copyright violation. American copyright law contains a concept called “fair use,” which allows third parties to use copyrighted works without permission if such works are used for purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. There are other factors involved in assessing whether an instance of unauthorized use is fair use (including its purpose, the nature of the copyrighted work, the amount used, and its effect on the market or value of the copyrighted work), and it’s not always an easy or clear determination. The best practice is to obtain permission from a copyright holder in every context rather than risk the damages and costs that could result from a finding of infringement.

George Apr 21, 13:16 UTC

Dear Edwardo,

Thank you for your emails. Sadly the technological and clearly visible aspect of the printing technique dates this piece into the second half of the 20th century.

With kind regards,
Georg

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